Interesting interview. I thought this section here gave a lot of insight into how great design works.
“I have great difficulty designing fonts without a function, a brief. I can’t create new forms, simply for the pleasure of those forms. In fact, it’s more the reverse: the function or brief inspires me to search for new forms”
Also, that’s a pretty interesting ligature with the S + T in Henderson. I can’t recall ever seeing that combination before.
Chris
Thanks. That ‘historical’ ligature is not so uncommon — just not used as frequently as the standard ligatures, ff, fl, fi, ffi and ffl. For example, Feijoa is one of hundreds that has an ‘st’ ligature (see page 4 of the PDF specimen); there’s even a nicely executed ‘im’ ligature on page 3 of that same specimen.
See also this Typophile node on the different types of ligature (e.g. discretionary and standard ligatures).
@Chris:
Yes, I also found that interesting. In addition, his comment
Whether I create my own brief, or it’s supplied by the client, it’s by following it that I can create new things; the more restrictions I have, the more creative I will be.
gave me some important insight into my own creative process. I’m exactly like that - I find it incredible hard to design something without boundaries. I suppose these boundaries help us to focus on what is important.
I also found that ligature quite interesting. My favourite one is usually the ‘ff’ symbol, although I’m not too familiar with many others. Are there any resources listing common ligatures? Also, how does one ‘type’ these in software? Will they appear automatically in the correct software?
I really like Henderson Serif. It strikes me as a very modern and powerful font that is really stylish and classical at the same time. It would look fantastic for an inline quote in a publication.
Roger
I mentioned using discretionary ligatures in this article (applies to the Abobe Creative suite). I’ll dig out something more comprehensive — unless anyone else can beat me to it. I’m a fan of Henderson Serif too.
I have done numerous projects with Jean-François, and I consider him to be the greatest living French typographer today, and also one of the best in the world. I greatly admire him and love his thinking. This interview captures him completely: his vast typographic culture, but also the emphasis he puts on culture in general as a source of knowledge and inspiration; his sense of function and problem solving. As Roger Tallon recently stated in an interview to Magazine magazine (issue 42, APC, 32 bd de Strasbourg, 75010 Paris France, no website), we designers are “problematicians” (problématiciens).
Oh, I love interviews! It was very interesting, there are numerous interesting aspects of this interview, but I especially like this quote: “Type design, then, is an intellectual rather than a manual job.”
Read this article with interest. The Frutiger has been one of my favorites for many years - of course I am influenced because when I went to art school we had calligraphy under Adrian Frutiger himself. The person and the lessons where character forming and inspiring, even though a torture for me, a “lefty”.
Reading this article, it also shows J.F. Porchez having a lot of this special ‘quality’ or attitude which can be observed in highly… professional, artists like e.g. A. Frutiger. Fonts like the SABON NEXT are a treasure as they allow reading with ease and aesthetics to the eye.
North American readers can get a good look of Parisine Plus in action by checking out HOW magazine, which was redesigned a few months ago and uses the beautiful family throughout.
Jean François mentioned Xavier Dupré. For those wanting to know more, we covered his typefaces in a newsletter last year.
That header is absolutely amazing. I actually couldn’t pick the face out because I had never seen the courrier version of Le Monde before! Another one to add to the list.
I really enjoyed this interview, insightful responses from Jean and it was great showing his fonts throughout the article. Kind of puts a voice to the font samples.
I don’t know what was about this interview that made it so alive for me - it’s almost like I was listening to Jean’s talk, and hearing his voice. Thanks for this great read, John.
I think Jean is the first type designer that I read about who draws letter forms right on screen with no prior sketches on paper: “the concept comes to me upon lengthy reflection in my head, rather than from a couple of hastily drawn sketches on paper.”
Aaron Levin
Yes, it must be quite something to work with him. Problématiciens — what a wonderful word. I’ll try to get hold of a copy of that issue of Magazine.
Stephen
Thanks for the newsletter link; I missed that one first time around.
gemma
Bien sûr :)
Cody
Yes, I like this header too. In fact Jean François designed 4; it was really difficult trying to choose just one. I think I’ll post links to the other headers. Would be a shame not to use them. What do you think about using that flavour of Le Monde for the default header?
Vivien (inspirationbit)
I somehow missed your comment first time around. I’m fascinated by those who design on screen. I just can’t do it. Almost everything I do (even my writing) starts on paper.
Cody
I’ve used one of Jean François’ headers for this French-language article. Will show the others soon.
gemma
Another Ambroise fan :) Be sure to print the Ambroise Specimen. It’s a small one, but looks gorgeous in print.
Johno
I would love the see the 4 different ones that he whipped up for the article. The French one is nice as well. It’s really interesting to see that the treatment of a French header isn’t so different from an English set one. Although, it’s probably because he is creating it inline of the iLT scheme.
Not much left to say. I agree with all here. Great read and very insightful!! I too loved the fact that JF needs a brief to set his way into a great design; although it’s hard to believe that he does not doodle letters like crazy just for the fun of it, like many of us do.
Type design, then, is an intellectual rather than a manual job; and the tools have no direct influence on the forms; it’s more about what your own brain, culture and influences and reading brings to it that really makes the difference.
I found this very interesting as I was under the impression the form was greatly determined by the tools historically used in type design.
Yes, I pretty much always base writing or drawings or projects of any sort on paper first. I always thought this was because I only had paper for such a long time, as a kid and into my teens, rather than computer technology, but it’s also probably got something to do with just being that sort of person. Or, more likely, the two influence each other in an inseparable way.
Great interview! I feel like I’ve been away for ages…
Also, I found the intellectual-rather-than-manual quote interesting because I have felt, so far in my self-induced typographic education, that it is a mix of both. That it is not completely intellectual (as writing academic papers might be), but not completely manual. This is a large part of what attracts me to typography — dealing with words and language but not in a sterile, academic environment.
(I know, I know, academia doesn’t have to be sterile. But I often felt it was.)
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Chris Papadopoulos
Interesting interview. I thought this section here gave a lot of insight into how great design works.
“I have great difficulty designing fonts without a function, a brief. I can’t create new forms, simply for the pleasure of those forms. In fact, it’s more the reverse: the function or brief inspires me to search for new forms”
Also, that’s a pretty interesting ligature with the S + T in Henderson. I can’t recall ever seeing that combination before.
Feb82008
johno (iLT)
Chris
Thanks. That ‘historical’ ligature is not so uncommon — just not used as frequently as the standard ligatures, ff, fl, fi, ffi and ffl. For example, Feijoa is one of hundreds that has an ‘st’ ligature (see page 4 of the PDF specimen); there’s even a nicely executed ‘im’ ligature on page 3 of that same specimen.
See also this Typophile node on the different types of ligature (e.g. discretionary and standard ligatures).
Feb82008
Roger Gordon
@Chris:
Yes, I also found that interesting. In addition, his comment
gave me some important insight into my own creative process. I’m exactly like that - I find it incredible hard to design something without boundaries. I suppose these boundaries help us to focus on what is important.
I also found that ligature quite interesting. My favourite one is usually the ‘ff’ symbol, although I’m not too familiar with many others. Are there any resources listing common ligatures? Also, how does one ‘type’ these in software? Will they appear automatically in the correct software?
I really like Henderson Serif. It strikes me as a very modern and powerful font that is really stylish and classical at the same time. It would look fantastic for an inline quote in a publication.
Interesting post. Thanks a lot.
Feb82008
johno (iLT)
Roger
I mentioned using discretionary ligatures in this article (applies to the Abobe Creative suite). I’ll dig out something more comprehensive — unless anyone else can beat me to it. I’m a fan of Henderson Serif too.
Feb82008
Aaron Levin
I have done numerous projects with Jean-François, and I consider him to be the greatest living French typographer today, and also one of the best in the world. I greatly admire him and love his thinking. This interview captures him completely: his vast typographic culture, but also the emphasis he puts on culture in general as a source of knowledge and inspiration; his sense of function and problem solving. As Roger Tallon recently stated in an interview to Magazine magazine (issue 42, APC, 32 bd de Strasbourg, 75010 Paris France, no website), we designers are “problematicians” (problématiciens).
Vive la typographie! Vive Jean-François!
Feb82008
miha
Oh, I love interviews! It was very interesting, there are numerous interesting aspects of this interview, but I especially like this quote: “Type design, then, is an intellectual rather than a manual job.”
Feb82008
Hamish M
Wonderfully enlightening interview, John. Really enjoyed it.
Jean François has worked on some really fantastic typefaces, a role model for any typographer, I should imagine.
Item #356 of things to do when I’m rich and famous; have someone design a typeface just for me. Hehe.
Feb82008
Marlyse Comte
Read this article with interest. The Frutiger has been one of my favorites for many years - of course I am influenced because when I went to art school we had calligraphy under Adrian Frutiger himself. The person and the lessons where character forming and inspiring, even though a torture for me, a “lefty”.
Reading this article, it also shows J.F. Porchez having a lot of this special ‘quality’ or attitude which can be observed in highly… professional, artists like e.g. A. Frutiger. Fonts like the SABON NEXT are a treasure as they allow reading with ease and aesthetics to the eye.
Feb92008
Stephen Coles
North American readers can get a good look of Parisine Plus in action by checking out HOW magazine, which was redesigned a few months ago and uses the beautiful family throughout.
Jean François mentioned Xavier Dupré. For those wanting to know more, we covered his typefaces in a newsletter last year.
Feb92008
gemma
nice header — en français!
Feb92008
Cody
That header is absolutely amazing. I actually couldn’t pick the face out because I had never seen the courrier version of Le Monde before! Another one to add to the list.
I really enjoyed this interview, insightful responses from Jean and it was great showing his fonts throughout the article. Kind of puts a voice to the font samples.
Great great stuff!
Feb92008
inspirationbit
I don’t know what was about this interview that made it so alive for me - it’s almost like I was listening to Jean’s talk, and hearing his voice. Thanks for this great read, John.
I think Jean is the first type designer that I read about who draws letter forms right on screen with no prior sketches on paper: “the concept comes to me upon lengthy reflection in my head, rather than from a couple of hastily drawn sketches on paper.”
That’s how it usually is with my designs.
Feb92008
johno (iLT)
Aaron Levin
Yes, it must be quite something to work with him.
Problématiciens — what a wonderful word. I’ll try to get hold of a copy of that issue of Magazine.
Stephen
Thanks for the newsletter link; I missed that one first time around.
gemma
Bien sûr :)
Cody
Yes, I like this header too. In fact Jean François designed 4; it was really difficult trying to choose just one. I think I’ll post links to the other headers. Would be a shame not to use them. What do you think about using that flavour of Le Monde for the default header?
Feb92008
gemma
The face behind the faces! Ambroise
Feb92008
johno (iLT)
Vivien (inspirationbit)
I somehow missed your comment first time around. I’m fascinated by those who design on screen. I just can’t do it. Almost everything I do (even my writing) starts on paper.
Cody
I’ve used one of Jean François’ headers for this French-language article. Will show the others soon.
gemma
Another Ambroise fan :) Be sure to print the Ambroise Specimen. It’s a small one, but looks gorgeous in print.
Feb102008
Cody
Johno
I would love the see the 4 different ones that he whipped up for the article. The French one is nice as well. It’s really interesting to see that the treatment of a French header isn’t so different from an English set one. Although, it’s probably because he is creating it inline of the iLT scheme.
Feb102008
RogueJunkie
Not much left to say. I agree with all here. Great read and very insightful!! I too loved the fact that JF needs a brief to set his way into a great design; although it’s hard to believe that he does not doodle letters like crazy just for the fun of it, like many of us do.
Feb102008
Christian (neu)
Great interview!
I found this very interesting as I was under the impression the form was greatly determined by the tools historically used in type design.
Feb102008
leah
Johno,
Yes, I pretty much always base writing or drawings or projects of any sort on paper first. I always thought this was because I only had paper for such a long time, as a kid and into my teens, rather than computer technology, but it’s also probably got something to do with just being that sort of person. Or, more likely, the two influence each other in an inseparable way.
Great interview! I feel like I’ve been away for ages…
Also, I found the intellectual-rather-than-manual quote interesting because I have felt, so far in my self-induced typographic education, that it is a mix of both. That it is not completely intellectual (as writing academic papers might be), but not completely manual. This is a large part of what attracts me to typography — dealing with words and language but not in a sterile, academic environment.
(I know, I know, academia doesn’t have to be sterile. But I often felt it was.)
Feb162008
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