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		<title>By: Adam Twardoch</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14455</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Twardoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As David explained, his article was not an extensive treaty on all possible diacritics, more a short overview. Indeed, “¨”called “trema” (from Greek τρημα, “perforation”) or “diaeresis” (from Greek διαίρεσις, “choice between”), in German also called “Umlaut” (“change of sound”), is an important diacritic character. One important mistake, shared with the “˙” (“dot accent” or “overdot”) found in many fonts is that the overall form is radically different from the i-dot. 

For example, in ITC Franklin Gothic, the dot over i is square but the diaeresis is made of two round dots: http://tinyurl.com/apq7sc
This does not make sense. Of course the diaeresis dots usually need to be smaller than the i-dot, but should share the same formal characteristics (so they should optically look alike). In the bolder weights of ITC Franklin Gothic, the dieresis is not only of wrong shape but also is too light. Of course in typefaces influenced by calligraphy, the dot over i can safely have a slightly different shape than the dieresis (e.g. in Robert Slimbach’s Arno Pro), but in very regular geometric faces the shapes should be very harmonized. 

The placement also tends to be a problem. In some typefaces the dot over i is placed very high (e.g. the Garamond display cuts), but the dieresis (and the dot over other letters such as o or z) can safely be placed lower. But if there is no compelling reason for the i-dot to be placed at a different height, the placement of all diacritics should be harmonized with the placement of the i-dot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As David explained, his article was not an extensive treaty on all possible diacritics, more a short overview. Indeed, “¨”called “trema” (from Greek τρημα, “perforation”) or “diaeresis” (from Greek διαίρεσις, “choice between”), in German also called “Umlaut” (“change of sound”), is an important diacritic character. One important mistake, shared with the “˙” (“dot accent” or “overdot”) found in many fonts is that the overall form is radically different from the i-dot. </p>
<p>For example, in ITC Franklin Gothic, the dot over i is square but the diaeresis is made of two round dots: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/apq7sc" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/apq7sc</a><br />
This does not make sense. Of course the diaeresis dots usually need to be smaller than the i-dot, but should share the same formal characteristics (so they should optically look alike). In the bolder weights of ITC Franklin Gothic, the dieresis is not only of wrong shape but also is too light. Of course in typefaces influenced by calligraphy, the dot over i can safely have a slightly different shape than the dieresis (e.g. in Robert Slimbach’s Arno Pro), but in very regular geometric faces the shapes should be very harmonized. </p>
<p>The placement also tends to be a problem. In some typefaces the dot over i is placed very high (e.g. the Garamond display cuts), but the dieresis (and the dot over other letters such as o or z) can safely be placed lower. But if there is no compelling reason for the i-dot to be placed at a different height, the placement of all diacritics should be harmonized with the placement of the i-dot.</p>
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		<title>By: Aniat</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14445</link>
		<dc:creator>Aniat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article!

I think you&#039;re missing the ü and Ü, an &quot;u&quot; letter with two little point over it.
Here we call the &quot;diéresis&quot; or &quot;crema&quot;.

In Spanish we need it to mark a difference between &quot;gue&quot; and &quot;güe&quot;, the first one, the U is mute; on the second, you have to pronnounce the U.

Like: guerra (muted U), paragüero (u with sound)

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article!</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the ü and Ü, an &#8220;u&#8221; letter with two little point over it.<br />
Here we call the &#8220;diéresis&#8221; or &#8220;crema&#8221;.</p>
<p>In Spanish we need it to mark a difference between &#8220;gue&#8221; and &#8220;güe&#8221;, the first one, the U is mute; on the second, you have to pronnounce the U.</p>
<p>Like: guerra (muted U), paragüero (u with sound)</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: iFont, iPhone &#171; Nathan&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14406</link>
		<dc:creator>iFont, iPhone &#171; Nathan&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] heard many complaining that they don’t have access to accents (diacritics) on the iPhone. If you don’t already know, then you simply have to press and hold down the key, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] heard many complaining that they don’t have access to accents (diacritics) on the iPhone. If you don’t already know, then you simply have to press and hold down the key, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Feed Your Type Addiction with RSS : font.is</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14160</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] typeface design and font development. News and articles on related subjects. David also wrote a very interesting article on iLT on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] typeface design and font development. News and articles on related subjects. David also wrote a very interesting article on iLT on [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-02-12 &#124; Chris F. Waigl</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14137</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-02-12 &#124; Chris F. Waigl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Spectacular article on diacritics (Latin, mostly), [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Spectacular article on diacritics (Latin, mostly), [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bogardus</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14086</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bogardus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

I want your help with a project. I want to make 15 diacrititic marks for the 15 vowel sounds in English, and use them to help little kids learn to read. Please give me a shout!
Chris Bogardus, 828-406-9580</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>I want your help with a project. I want to make 15 diacrititic marks for the 15 vowel sounds in English, and use them to help little kids learn to read. Please give me a shout!<br />
Chris Bogardus, 828-406-9580</p>
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		<title>By: shootdatarget</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14072</link>
		<dc:creator>shootdatarget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amazing!!!

Typography is indeed important! and i just know that fact recently... poor me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amazing!!!</p>
<p>Typography is indeed important! and i just know that fact recently&#8230; poor me!</p>
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		<title>By: syed</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14070</link>
		<dc:creator>syed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi There

Love your blog and what your are doing. but IMHO your last theme is better. :) Anyway, can i interview you for my website? Email me is the answer is yes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi There</p>
<p>Love your blog and what your are doing. but IMHO your last theme is better. :) Anyway, can i interview you for my website? Email me is the answer is yes</p>
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		<title>By: Sune Emil</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14046</link>
		<dc:creator>Sune Emil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.

As being another Dane with a love for typography, not being able to use æ, ø &amp; å, when writing texts in more special typography, is a major problem.

Still this is just a small problem though, in comparence to the Czech language. Your article here has really given me a look into the world of diacritical marks. This is especially one of the areas I&#039;ll try to play with and learn from when I start making real fonts instead of just playing with different letters being adjusted to a typeface. I&#039;m actully looking forward to it, thought it&#039;s properly hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>As being another Dane with a love for typography, not being able to use æ, ø &amp; å, when writing texts in more special typography, is a major problem.</p>
<p>Still this is just a small problem though, in comparence to the Czech language. Your article here has really given me a look into the world of diacritical marks. This is especially one of the areas I&#8217;ll try to play with and learn from when I start making real fonts instead of just playing with different letters being adjusted to a typeface. I&#8217;m actully looking forward to it, thought it&#8217;s properly hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: johno</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/#comment-14011</link>
		<dc:creator>johno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Harnish&lt;/strong&gt;
See TypeOff&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.typeoff.de/?p=304&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bibliography for Devanagari information&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Harnish</strong><br />
See TypeOff&#8217;s <a href="http://www.typeoff.de/?p=304" rel="nofollow">Bibliography for Devanagari information</a>.</p>
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