Sunday type: ampersand type

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  1. I believe the typeface in the header is *****, I was looking at it for the redesign of my blog earlier this week!

    The designer is *****, who also created *****.

    Nice find on the wordpress plugin, I’ve been manually adding non-breaking spaces to prevent widows, now I can be lazy and let Wordpress do it for me. :D

  2. Kyle
    You were right, Kyle. Your name’s in the hat. I’ve obfuscated your answers for obvious reasons ;) Thanks for your entry.

  3. Oops, totally missed the email submission. Sorry Johno.

    Now I look as though I curse a storm for my ignorance. :P

  4. Le Monde Courrier is gorgeous!
    I’m glad I’ve been reading up on type, otherwise I wouldn’t be immortalised in the The Rather Difficult Font Game — stoked, 28 right.
    Let’s hope the internet doesn’t become filled with inharmonious ampersands!

  5. Ahh, never mind the above, Johno’s fixed it. Could you remove my above post, Johno? I can’t seem to edit it for some reason. Ta!

  6. The font game was fun, I got 27 on my first try. It was a nice ego boost for me.

  7. Awesome!

    Great typography in that video, and lots of beer, haha.

    And don’t you just love Ampersands? Such a beautiful character. Nice round up you have there, though I can’t name too many of them. (Without falling back to Photoshop, of course)

    Also, looking forward to Jos’s interview!

    Thanks again for another great Sunday Type, John.

  8. Kyle
    No problem. I’ve done the same myself.

    Dylan
    Good score. I’m impressed. Yes, Le Monde Courrier PTF is; but then so is just about everything from Porchez.

    ManxStef
    Done! Thanks.

    Richard
    That’s good going. I got one wrong the first time (thankfully it wasn’t Comic Sans!) ;)

    Hamish
    You’re welcome. Hope that redesign is going well.

  9. Loved the font test, though if I can score better than 30 something’s too easy! (Font identification, shame on me, isn’t a strong suit of mine.) Love all the new fonts you’ve highligheted, especially Sniplash and Walburn.

    On a vaguely related note… Has anyone here read Chip Kidd’s latest book? (The Learners.) It’s fiction, but there are lots of interesting tidbits in it about typography and design in general.

  10. Is it really Sunday again?” - this is the same question I’ve been asking. I still have to catch up with your last week’s Sunday Type, and here you are with so many type gems that my family life and business are at stake ;-)

    I was indeed wondering how some sites replace the ampersand with a more elegant one - thanks for the heads up with the Typogrify plugin. I too liked ampersand in “Hoefler Text” before I found out what type was it. However, I have a question - is Hoefler Text was adopted as another web-safe font? It was designed for Apple computers so it should be available on most Macs, but how about Windows/Linux?

    Ok, off to play Name the Font game. I know I’ll fail it miserably, but hopefully after some practice I’ll be able to quickly identify all the fonts you’re quizzing us about here ;-)

    oh, and thanks a lot for you links to my articles this and the previous week.

  11. Ta, Johno.

    How can anyone not love a good ampersand? On the ID front: the second is Palatino, the middle’s Hoefler Text Italic – quite a unique one, that! – and the last is Baskerville Italic, can’t place the rest off-hand. The Ministry of Type had an article extolling the virtues of a pretty ampersand, too:
    http://www.ministryoftype.co.uk/words/article/the_ampersand/

    What about the ugliest ones? My vote would be for Trebuchet MS, it’s a popular choice as a heading font on the web so I see its unsightly ‘Et’ quite frequently and it always annoys me. (I do like the typeface overall, but think the ampersand spoils it somewhat.)

    That type ID game was fun, though I think my score was due to a process of elimination along with a good dose of luck rather than actual skill!

  12. Alec, I haven’t read The Learners yet, but have you seen the video on YouTube with Chip Kidd presenting this book? Is the book itself written with humour as well? ;-)

  13. inspirationbit
    Well, it’s definitely got humor in it, but overall the book is rather dark.

  14. Asparouh

    29 on The Rather Difficult Font Game. Not bad for a first attempt.

    About the ampersands, I remember the quite impressive ampersand collection over here. Quite inspirational BTW.

    Can’t wait for the next part of “15 great Examples…”.

  15. As always, excellent reading, John. I tell you, if it wasn’t for iLT and a few other blogs, I’d have no fun reading for my breaks when I’m working to get books out. Unfortunately, the more I read on iLT, the longer my list of types to buy keeps getting; and, without the capital to invest, goes unfulfilled.

    The font game was a real blow to my ego. After 15 years of book design and production work, I got only 27 of them. I think I’m entering that stage where I may have forgotten more than some have learned yet. But I should count myself lucky to have found another thing to add to my arsenal of exercise to keep the old brain nimble.

    Is that quiz a one-shot, or does it change randomly each time one submits to it? I’ll have to go back and check.

    Keep up the good work, John, I need the eggs.

  16. Kari Pätilä

    Stephen
    The game is random, which can either make it too easy or too difficult at this point. The only problem is that there’s only the 34 fonts in total at the moment, but I’m at least doubling that during the week. There’ll still be 34 questions, but it will be even more random then.

  17. i’ve just discovered ilovetypography and i’m pretty sure my mind is blown. so many excellent links! so many gorgeous images! thanks for putting so much heart into this website. i’ll definitely be back.

  18. …I want the Felici, I so do, but I now feel like a total dweeboramous - no idea at all! But! There is research. There is going to be research tonight! (Oh who am I kidding, I’m likely to get it wrong but I’ll give it a shot anyway!)

    Thank you SO much for the link to the comic book fonts! I have been looking for some good ones to illustrate one or two random little weird pieces.

    I am gradually learning a bit more about typography as I plough through this site, and some other self-study stuff I’m working on. This is a good thing. Except that the first day I discovered the site and went through it, the next day I was due to type up and print out a list of events for my workplace to put up on the bulletin board - and I wound up going, “…This looks bad, OH GOOD LORD NO this size looks terrible, NO the numbers on this are nowhere clear enough - wait, kerning - screw kerning, I haven’t time to do it, as long as this is clear and legible…” Two hours later, I discovered with horror that Times New Roman no longer looks remotely decent when bolded now I look at it, and that I have Many Issues with the numerals of Imperator, that Bitstream Vera Serif looks rather nice with a bigger size of Times New Roman…and that I’m slightly insane.

    The schedule did turn out rather nicely in the end though for an initial foray into the deep waters of Type and Font.

    All this to say, this is a dangerous (but beautifully knowlegeable) website to stumble upon. I’m loving it, but I don’t think my friends are going to when I start pointing out typographical cardinal sins in the books they read… — Shuku

  19. That was a lot of great stuff today. I have taken the type test and did fare quite well: this means it mustn’t be that difficult!

    About the font, about which you say “…Takes its cue from cartoons and comics of the ’60s and ’70s” I’m sure I’ve seen lettering like it in the title cards of The Pink Panther Show, The Roadrunner and other series. You can see loads of these title cards here: http://dfe.goldenagecartoons.com/

  20. Never saw Slanted at my local newspaper stand, which is weird since it is published in Germany (afaik) and that they have a pretty good collection of design mags already. But i just called ’em and ordered it, thanks for the headsup John! Am so exited now to get my hands onto another mag, print is still always nicer to look at.

    Graphic 12 is another great one, you have to check it out if you haven’t heard about it yet. And check out Lodown as well (partially written in German though).

    + thanks for pointing us to Kugelhopf and Le Monde Courrier, just beautiful! As well looking forward to the interview with Jos!

  21. Manuel
    Slanted isn’t one of those “regular” magazines, like form or PAGE; you can’t get it a the news stand. You have to follow their blog or the German typorati blogosphere, and order it while you can.

    Also, issues of the magazine are also often given away for free at the TYPO Berlin conference every May and the Frankfurt Book Fair every October. So if you are in the neighborhood during one of those events, don’t miss out!

  22. Calderone

    Hey… first of all: great site.
    Q: Does anyone know what font is used in the Artois animation ?

  23. hussein

    yessss! i scored 33 points out of 34 :) that was pretty easy.. :D

  24. Calderone

    26 points for Gryffindor

    right on the average :-(
    But i was pretty fast :-)

  25. Thanks for the links. I really like the game!

  26. Kari Pätilä

    The game seems to be quite popular… Since this Sunday type was posted I’ve had over 8000 unique visitors.

    Still, the server seems to be able to manage, even though it feels a bit sluggish every now and then.

  27. @Dan Reynolds: Page and Graphic 12 are (weirdly enough) regulars at my local news stand though.

    Berlin is so far away for me (living on an island) and i don’t like cities anyways, so no go. But thanks for the info!

  28. Hmmm. A paltry 25 points on The Rather Difficult Font Game. Thanks for the heads up on the Typogrify plugin, and for the fun post John.

  29. Thanks for linking to my collection of typography resources.

  30. Sunday Type seems to be getting better and better. Thanks for all the cool stuff John :)

  31. Cesar Kohl

    I know this is not the right place to ask this, but can anyone say what type is that?

    http://www.q2design.com/cn/news/cimatics.gif

    I just can’t say! I’m getting crazy!

  32. Cesar: hmm, looks like Avant Garde Bold but for the round dot on the ‘i’, so I’m not sure.

    Best place to ask is over at the Typophile ID forums, you’re almost certain to get the right answer there: http://typophile.com/forum/29

  33. Cesar Kohl

    Thank you! I just asked them!

    btw, nice website!

  34. Glad to help, Cesar, and thanks for the kind comment!

  35. Scherer

    thanks for featuring my fontstruct!

  36. Thank you for this great list with much more great ideas. Ralph

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