<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Sunday Type: Freudian Type</title>
	<atom:link href="http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 16:07:55 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Steven Hoober</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2382</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Hoober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2382</guid>
		<description>Thank god the Comic Sans discussion quieted down again. I don&#039;t think I could handle another of those. Awaiting your thoughts on type for kids, though.

Die 100 Besten Schriften was pretty good to me. Not in agreement with the ordering, but the list as a whole was good. Frankly, Times bores the crap out of me. Prefer Garamond, or Slimbach (many folks&#039; early work often has a style that is lacking in later stuff, doncha think?)

Happy to see Antique Olive made it. I&#039;ve been loving that lately (though Nord is challengingly wide and heavy), and have been able to use it full time as a sort of brand around here as the non-generic version of the in-every-Apple-template Gill Sans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god the Comic Sans discussion quieted down again. I don&#8217;t think I could handle another of those. Awaiting your thoughts on type for kids, though.</p>
<p>Die 100 Besten Schriften was pretty good to me. Not in agreement with the ordering, but the list as a whole was good. Frankly, Times bores the crap out of me. Prefer Garamond, or Slimbach (many folks&#8217; early work often has a style that is lacking in later stuff, doncha think?)</p>
<p>Happy to see Antique Olive made it. I&#8217;ve been loving that lately (though Nord is challengingly wide and heavy), and have been able to use it full time as a sort of brand around here as the non-generic version of the in-every-Apple-template Gill Sans.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: johno (iLT)</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2366</link>
		<dc:creator>johno (iLT)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2366</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Leah&lt;/strong&gt;
Thanks for the link.

&lt;strong&gt;Zachary&lt;/strong&gt;
Lovely quotation. Keep your eyes peeled for the best fonts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Leah</strong><br />
Thanks for the link.</p>
<p><strong>Zachary</strong><br />
Lovely quotation. Keep your eyes peeled for the best fonts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: zachary</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2359</link>
		<dc:creator>zachary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2359</guid>
		<description>

It hadn’t really occurred to me to consider the Best 100 as being in order of best to least best. I don’t think any single person could possibly agree 100% with any list. I’d rather see it in alphabetical order or with no numbers attached. I think having numbers focuses attention on the order instead of on the fonts. 

It reminds me of the Zen koan &lt;strong&gt;Everything Is Best&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;When Banzan was walking through a market he overheard a conversation between a butcher and his customer.

“Give me the best piece of meat you have,” said the customer.

“Everything in my shop is the best,” replied the butcher. “You cannot find here any piece of meat that is not the best.”

At these words Banzan became enlightened.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Johno, give me the best font you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It hadn’t really occurred to me to consider the Best 100 as being in order of best to least best. I don’t think any single person could possibly agree 100% with any list. I’d rather see it in alphabetical order or with no numbers attached. I think having numbers focuses attention on the order instead of on the fonts. </p>
<p>It reminds me of the Zen koan <strong>Everything Is Best</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>When Banzan was walking through a market he overheard a conversation between a butcher and his customer.</p>
<p>“Give me the best piece of meat you have,” said the customer.</p>
<p>“Everything in my shop is the best,” replied the butcher. “You cannot find here any piece of meat that is not the best.”</p>
<p>At these words Banzan became enlightened.</p></blockquote>
<p>Johno, give me the best font you have.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: leah</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2354</link>
		<dc:creator>leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2354</guid>
		<description>About &lt;i&gt;frackin&#039;&lt;/i&gt; -- to be honest, I had no idea where it came from. I do, however, have a number of friends who are huge fans of Battlestar Galactica, so that&#039;s probably how the word found its way into my vocabulary. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://alt.cc/jk/2005/03/03/frackin-my-new-favorite-word/ &quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is a blog I found via Google, where the author explains why the shows uses &quot;frack&quot; instead of other F words. I know this is off the topic of typography, but what the hey. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About <i>frackin&#8217;</i> &#8212; to be honest, I had no idea where it came from. I do, however, have a number of friends who are huge fans of Battlestar Galactica, so that&#8217;s probably how the word found its way into my vocabulary. </p>
<p><a href="http://alt.cc/jk/2005/03/03/frackin-my-new-favorite-word/ ">This</a> is a blog I found via Google, where the author explains why the shows uses &#8220;frack&#8221; instead of other F words. I know this is off the topic of typography, but what the hey. :)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: johno (iLT)</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2352</link>
		<dc:creator>johno (iLT)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2352</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Alec&lt;/strong&gt;
That&#039;s a good idea; but, as you write, getting a large enough sample size might be a problem. Might be worth a go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Alec</strong><br />
That&#8217;s a good idea; but, as you write, getting a large enough sample size might be a problem. Might be worth a go.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2350</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2350</guid>
		<description>You could have a two-round vote. Round 1: People submit their own lists of favorite fonts. You take the top 100 of those and create Round 2: the top 100 fonts from the previous round are voted on for ordering. It&#039;d take a lot of people in Round 1 to make the resulting top 100 statistically significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could have a two-round vote. Round 1: People submit their own lists of favorite fonts. You take the top 100 of those and create Round 2: the top 100 fonts from the previous round are voted on for ordering. It&#8217;d take a lot of people in Round 1 to make the resulting top 100 statistically significant.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: johno (iLT)</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2346</link>
		<dc:creator>johno (iLT)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2346</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lauren&lt;/strong&gt;
Thanks for that. I had to check what Battlestar Galactica was too ;) I still have Firefly and the movie Serenity to Google.

&lt;strong&gt;alison&lt;/strong&gt;
Yes, it was scheduled and unscheduled maintenance (suggesting minutes of downtime, rather than 11 hours of downtime in two days); however, it went terribly wrong, and MT have admitted such in this &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/2007/12/04/we-apologize/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;We Apologize&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; post on their blog. They have also refunded me for every month I&#039;ve been with them (for the Grid Service)--proof that it has performed very poorly. I must say that I also have a Dedicated Server with them which has performed very well (but doesn&#039;t take kindly to big Diggs). Thanks for your comment.

&lt;strong&gt;Stephen&lt;/strong&gt;
These lists are certainly difficult; and there will never be a list that pleases everyone; however, &#039;good&#039; lists often times help us to look anew and afresh at some types we&#039;d previously ignored or even disliked. Great that they provoke discussion though, isn&#039;t it. Helvetica is a tough one; you&#039;re right in suggesting that its ubiquity has led to something of a backlash--but then, I guess that happens with just about anything. (a cult movie loses its cult status if too many like it).

I once thought about having a list that readers could vote on; however, the difficulty is which list of types to begin with? And, one would have to determine the criteria for voting. Suggestions on a postcard, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lauren</strong><br />
Thanks for that. I had to check what Battlestar Galactica was too ;) I still have Firefly and the movie Serenity to Google.</p>
<p><strong>alison</strong><br />
Yes, it was scheduled and unscheduled maintenance (suggesting minutes of downtime, rather than 11 hours of downtime in two days); however, it went terribly wrong, and MT have admitted such in this <em><a href="http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/2007/12/04/we-apologize/" target="_blank">We Apologize</a></em> post on their blog. They have also refunded me for every month I&#8217;ve been with them (for the Grid Service)&#8212;proof that it has performed very poorly. I must say that I also have a Dedicated Server with them which has performed very well (but doesn&#8217;t take kindly to big Diggs). Thanks for your comment.</p>
<p><strong>Stephen</strong><br />
These lists are certainly difficult; and there will never be a list that pleases everyone; however, &#8216;good&#8217; lists often times help us to look anew and afresh at some types we&#8217;d previously ignored or even disliked. Great that they provoke discussion though, isn&#8217;t it. Helvetica is a tough one; you&#8217;re right in suggesting that its ubiquity has led to something of a backlash&#8212;but then, I guess that happens with just about anything. (a cult movie loses its cult status if too many like it).</p>
<p>I once thought about having a list that readers could vote on; however, the difficulty is which list of types to begin with? And, one would have to determine the criteria for voting. Suggestions on a postcard, please.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stephen Tiano</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2345</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Tiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2345</guid>
		<description>A list of the 100 best types? There&#039;s bound to be some trouble, I thought. But, you know what, after reading through 100 types, trying to remember what each look like, and running into some that I couldn&#039;t picture without help, I have to admit it was well-done.

Yes, there are some wildly out of whack listings. I mean, please, Helvetica number 1? That&#039;s simply because of ubiquity. Frankly—here’s an argument coming—I can’t see a sans as number 1. Akzidenz Grotesk number 7? Some kind of homage to Mr. Tschichold. Garamond number 2—okay, that’s better. But Frutiger and Bodoni that high? I don’t think so.

I don’t like to use it much anymore, but Times deserves its place in the top 10. Perhaps an argument can be made for it at number 1. Futura in the top 10 is certainly fair. But not Optima? Boo, hiss! Bembo rates much higher.

I should stop now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A list of the 100 best types? There&#8217;s bound to be some trouble, I thought. But, you know what, after reading through 100 types, trying to remember what each look like, and running into some that I couldn&#8217;t picture without help, I have to admit it was well-done.</p>
<p>Yes, there are some wildly out of whack listings. I mean, please, Helvetica number 1? That&#8217;s simply because of ubiquity. Frankly—here’s an argument coming—I can’t see a sans as number 1. Akzidenz Grotesk number 7? Some kind of homage to Mr. Tschichold. Garamond number 2—okay, that’s better. But Frutiger and Bodoni that high? I don’t think so.</p>
<p>I don’t like to use it much anymore, but Times deserves its place in the top 10. Perhaps an argument can be made for it at number 1. Futura in the top 10 is certainly fair. But not Optima? Boo, hiss! Bembo rates much higher.</p>
<p>I should stop now.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: alison</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2342</link>
		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2342</guid>
		<description>Saw the post ref MT Dec 2 and believe that week there was scheduled maintenance but our site didn&#039;t go down.......we&#039;ve been using them for years and haven&#039;t had any problems - happy with the GS too - it&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve ever seen a negative post about MT so caught my eye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the post ref MT Dec 2 and believe that week there was scheduled maintenance but our site didn&#8217;t go down&#8230;&#8230;.we&#8217;ve been using them for years and haven&#8217;t had any problems - happy with the GS too - it&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve ever seen a negative post about MT so caught my eye</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: LaurenMarie - Creative Curio</title>
		<link>http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2337</link>
		<dc:creator>LaurenMarie - Creative Curio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ilovetypography.com/2007/12/02/sunday-type-freudian-type/#comment-2337</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Johno&lt;/strong&gt;, frackin is from Battlestar Galactica (at least that&#039;s where I first heard it). I guess you have to be a geek to know that one *blush* For a real what-can-we-get-away-with-saying-on-tv treat, check out the Firefly series (and the recent Serenity movie... just don&#039;t look at the typography). They cuss in Chinese!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Johno</strong>, frackin is from Battlestar Galactica (at least that&#8217;s where I first heard it). I guess you have to be a geek to know that one *blush* For a real what-can-we-get-away-with-saying-on-tv treat, check out the Firefly series (and the recent Serenity movie&#8230; just don&#8217;t look at the typography). They cuss in Chinese!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Page Caching using disk: enhanced
Content Delivery Network via cdn.ilovetypography.com

Served from: ilovetypography.com @ 2012-05-22 14:11:31 -->
