Comments on: The Return of the Serif http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:35:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: セリフを撃ったのは誰？ | i love typography, the typography blog http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-5516 セリフを撃ったのは誰？ | i love typography, the typography blog Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:17:28 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-5516 [...] Part 2: The Return of the Serif. [...] […] Part 2: The Return of the Serif. […]

]]> By: johno (iLT) http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-4702 johno (iLT) Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:38:56 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-4702 <strong>Shelly</strong> If you're looking for specific typefaces, then <a href="http://www.fontshop.com/fonts/category/">FontShop</a> is a good place to start. You can search by category, which is pretty useful. <strong>Stephen</strong> That makes two knuckle heads :) Those books are excellent choices. Shelly
If you’re looking for specific typefaces, then FontShop is a good place to start. You can search by category, which is pretty useful.

Stephen
That makes two knuckle heads :) Those books are excellent choices.

]]> By: Stephen Tiano http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-4700 Stephen Tiano Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:49:51 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-4700 Well, since I may be the only knucklehead awake and working this morning, I may be as close as you’re going to get to a sane answer for a few hours yet. Anyhow, welcome, Shelly. You may not want to hear this, but as good as sites are—this one, certainly terrific; and Typohile.com awfully good if you can get past what sometimes seems to me a certain forgetfulness that designers who use type exist primarily because there are readers and writers of all kinds of things (books, ads, brochures, magazines, etc) trying to reach those readers—there's nothing like a few good books. If you’re up for the intensity of really <em>getting into</em> this stuff, start with <em>Anatomy of a Typeface</em> by Alexander S. Lawson, then maybe Ellen Lupton’s <em>Thinking with Type.</em> And Robert Bringhurst’s <em>The Elements of Typographic Style.</em> Well, since I may be the only knucklehead awake and working this morning, I may be as close as you’re going to get to a sane answer for a few hours yet. Anyhow, welcome, Shelly.

You may not want to hear this, but as good as sites are—this one, certainly terrific; and Typohile.com awfully good if you can get past what sometimes seems to me a certain forgetfulness that designers who use type exist primarily because there are readers and writers of all kinds of things (books, ads, brochures, magazines, etc) trying to reach those readers—there’s nothing like a few good books.

If you’re up for the intensity of really getting into this stuff, start with Anatomy of a Typeface by Alexander S. Lawson, then maybe Ellen Lupton’s Thinking with Type. And Robert Bringhurst’s The Elements of Typographic Style.

]]> By: shelly http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-4699 shelly Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:32:07 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-4699 Hello... I am a fifteen year old student taking first-year journalism class... I was searching for information on certain headline fonts for an assignment... and I found nothing, but this site i found very useful. I love the way you explained fonts so easily. Are there any other sites I can reference to find out more about serif and other fonts, especially sans serif, script, and mono-space?? Thank you~~~ Hello… I am a fifteen year old student taking first-year journalism class…
I was searching for information on certain headline fonts for an assignment… and I found nothing, but this site i found very useful. I love the way you explained fonts so easily.

Are there any other sites I can reference to find out more about serif and other fonts, especially sans serif, script, and mono-space??

Thank you~~~

]]> By: Alec http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-638 Alec Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:13:26 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-638 Well, there may be a reason there aren't any Garamond-like monospace fonts -- my experiment so far has been an unmitigated aesthetic disaster. There's just something so wrong about it... Well, there may be a reason there aren’t any Garamond-like monospace fonts — my experiment so far has been an unmitigated aesthetic disaster. There’s just something so wrong about it…

]]> By: johno http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-621 johno Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:39:21 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-621 Sounds like an interesting experiment. Keep me informed of progress; I'd like to see the results. Sounds like an interesting experiment. Keep me informed of progress; I’d like to see the results.

]]> By: Alec http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-513 Alec Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:51:36 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-513 @Fred: There seem to be plenty of at least quasi-serifed monospace fonts out there. Courier, Tired of Courier, Prestige Elite Std, Anonymous, Smith Premier NF, Nimbus Monospace. Are you thinking of like taking a Garamond or Minion and turning that into a monospace version? That might be interesting. I might be experimenting with that this week... @Fred: There seem to be plenty of at least quasi-serifed monospace fonts out there. Courier, Tired of Courier, Prestige Elite Std, Anonymous, Smith Premier NF, Nimbus Monospace. Are you thinking of like taking a Garamond or Minion and turning that into a monospace version? That might be interesting. I might be experimenting with that this week…

]]> By: Fred http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-510 Fred Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:02:39 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-510 Rank discrimination!! Techies of the webdev and the software development persuasion need monospace fonts. You yourself use them. So where are the serifed monospace fonts? Where are the Unicode serifed monospace fonts? And where is your outrage at their absence? (There is one serifed monospace font. One. Non-Unicode) Outraged Rank discrimination!!

Techies of the webdev and the software development persuasion need monospace fonts. You yourself use them. So where are the serifed monospace fonts? Where are the Unicode serifed monospace fonts?

And where is your outrage at their absence? (There is one serifed monospace font. One. Non-Unicode)

Outraged

]]> By: Who Shot the Serif? Typography Terms | i love typography http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-431 Who Shot the Serif? Typography Terms | i love typography Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:07:13 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-431 [...] 2: The Return of the Serif. Be sure to share it: 59 Comments, Comment or [...] […] 2: The Return of the Serif. Be sure to share it: 59 Comments, Comment or […]

]]> By: Stephen Tiano (Tiano Design) http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-278 Stephen Tiano (Tiano Design) Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:52:22 +0000 http://ilovetypography.com/2007/09/02/the-return-of-the-serif-type-terminology/#comment-278 <i>Thinking with Type</i> is one of my general favorites. An easy read and filled with good stuff that starts you thinking. And I can’t recommend Bringhurst enough. I remember <i>Stop Stealing Sheep ...</i> from years ago. It’s still relevant, I guess. It’s a lot of fun o have a whole list of books to recommend, and I do. (I got a lot of them from suggestions made by people commenting on the <a href="http://tianodesign.com/blog/?p=18"> <b>thoroughly unscientific survey on my blog.</b></a> I hesitated before installing FontForge, as some diehard FontLab users started out telling me it would be a waste of time. But others said know and that—if I understand correctly—FF is better with OpenType. I’ll prob’ly start to blog a little about the whole experience of getting into learning more about designing type in a week or two. I can see where it becomes all-consuming, but as a book designer it was a natural progression. I’ve been harping a lot lately in a number of places about how it is a major irritation that books on deign, of all things—especially good ones—don’t seem to feel any need to put their desire for a good-looking book <i>behind</i> the obligation at least <i>make the reader’s experience tougher</i> if they’re not going to make it easier. This current penchant for small, light sans serif type for long stretches of text on the printed page has got to go. I guess we may be turning into such a Web-centric society that the sense that designing for print is a different animal than designing for the Web has just gotten lost. All you fledgling designers and students frequenting i love typography ... please remember that there’s a difference. Thinking with Type is one of my general favorites. An easy read and filled with good stuff that starts you thinking. And I can’t recommend Bringhurst enough. I remember Stop Stealing Sheep … from years ago. It’s still relevant, I guess. It’s a lot of fun o have a whole list of books to recommend, and I do. (I got a lot of them from suggestions made by people commenting on the thoroughly unscientific survey on my blog.

I hesitated before installing FontForge, as some diehard FontLab users started out telling me it would be a waste of time. But others said know and that—if I understand correctly—FF is better with OpenType. I’ll prob’ly start to blog a little about the whole experience of getting into learning more about designing type in a week or two. I can see where it becomes all-consuming, but as a book designer it was a natural progression.

I’ve been harping a lot lately in a number of places about how it is a major irritation that books on deign, of all things—especially good ones—don’t seem to feel any need to put their desire for a good-looking book behind the obligation at least make the reader’s experience tougher if they’re not going to make it easier.

This current penchant for small, light sans serif type for long stretches of text on the printed page has got to go. I guess we may be turning into such a Web-centric society that the sense that designing for print is a different animal than designing for the Web has just gotten lost.

All you fledgling designers and students frequenting i love typography … please remember that there’s a difference.

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